and he said i don't know joe, i never have enough to do it. >> jennifer: only joe biden can talk by name about the guy at the gas station. he has a big task ahead of him, and paul ryan should be armed, i would imagine with a mind full of numbers and so-called facts. ryan has not debated on this big of a stage before. but he is certainly no novice. joining me with a preview of perhaps the strategy, the expectations for tomorrow's debate is democratic strategy karen skeleton, she was a political strategist for al gore's race and debate against jack kemp and sundheim, who chaired the california republican party during arnold schwarzenegger's governorship. welcome back both of you inside "the war room." >> thank you. first of all, she did a great job in '96. i think that gore really did a great job -- >> jennifer: okay. we're getting right to it. [ laughter ] >> jennifer: karen what are your fears about the debate tomorrow? >> i would say first of all, you know, i hope he doesn't become condescending >> jennifer: joe biden. >> yeah, because there is such an age gap and experience gap. the mo